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Title: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Oliver F. on July 16, 2009, 11:17:55 pm
This is a strange one and propably not related to EA but MS Word.
I have created several RTFs with build 846 now with different templates.
In several reports Word shows note texts from notes or scenarios crippled.  Text is omitted, colons and periods appear at the beginning of the sentence, text blocks are moved around in the section. Even better: The cursor movement is inverted in this text area. Right cursor movement cause the cursor to go left and vice versa.
I can select the text and copy it to Wordpad where it appears correct. I can even open the same RTF document in Wordpad and the text is ok.

Always only about 10% of the notes. Even more strange: After regeneration of the document other notes are affected and never the same one again. Sometimes no crippling is in.
I have the impression that it is related to the flag "Use style defined in template for notes" but there is not much of evidence.

Is anybody having a similar experience or can someone try it out?

Thanks in advance,

Oliver
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Simon M on July 17, 2009, 10:03:55 am
If you can send through a template to Sparx support we can have a look at it.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Oliver F. on July 17, 2009, 05:50:24 pm
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If you can send through a template to Sparx support we can have a look at it.

Sent an email to support@sparxsystems.com

This occurs also with the basic templates in the standard deployment and it is highly annoying. It did not occur with build 845 so something must have changed in between.

Oliver
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Dermot on July 21, 2009, 11:32:26 am
This appears to be a problem with the Left/Right - text flow.
I suggest you try:
1. Opening the template
2. Select all text in the document
3. Menu: Paragraph | Text Flow
4. Select: Left | Right -  option.
5. Save & Generate you report again.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Steve Irving on July 28, 2009, 01:13:29 pm
the suggested fix did not work for me...and it would make little sense if it did work too - given that the note in one element is coming out fine and then the next one is all over the place...it would appear that some "odd" characters are being included in the text.  When i copy the following "corrupt" text from the generated RFT into notepad:

"that all the required for Usage Logging is 221The important thing to test against the AP data is logged."

In notepad it actually comes out as:

The important thing to test against the AP221 for Usage Logging is that all the required data is logged.

(which is how it was entered).  

Also - if you generate and use the internal viewer - then it all looks as you expect.  My templates all worked ok before 846.  
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Dermot on July 29, 2009, 02:54:06 pm
We do have a resolve for this issue in the next build to be released - Build 847.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Paolo F Cantoni on July 29, 2009, 03:41:41 pm
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We do have a resolve for this issue in the next build to be released - Build 847.
Actually, Roy Dermot, you have a resolution for the issue...  ;)

Paolo
(Combat Language Entropy!)
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: RoyC on July 29, 2009, 04:14:04 pm
Actually, Paolo, Dermot provided that response, not I.

Roy
(Fight Against Mixing Up Sparx Respondents, or FAMUSR)
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Paolo F Cantoni on July 29, 2009, 06:38:58 pm
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Actually, Paolo, Dermot provided that response, not I.

Roy
(Fight Against Mixing Up Sparx Respondents, or FAMUSR)
Whoops sorry for that...  Slip of the mind... :-[

You, of course, would not have committed such a sin...

Paolo :-[
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Martin Terreni on July 29, 2009, 10:50:17 pm
Long saga for us with this we reported this with frist release of 7.5(844?) ,even during beta testing...

I got a workarround:
Quote
Hi Martin,
  Thanks for the documents.
 
The only workaround is as follow
1. Open "Regional and Language options" in control panel
2. Switch to the Advanced Tab.
3. Change "Language for non-Unicode programs" to English (country)
4. Reboot machine.
 
Warning: I dont know what issues this might cause with other applications you have installed on you machine.
 
Please let me know if it works for you.  We are still working on fixing this issue without doing the above.
  
Best Regards,
Alistair Leslie-Hughes
Sparx Systems Pty Ltd
http://www.sparxsystems.com.au

worked for us.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Steve Irving on July 30, 2009, 09:22:36 am
my language settings are already as specified so no difference for me.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Dermot on July 30, 2009, 04:36:21 pm
Actualy I shoud qualify the above statement, we do hope to have this resolved  in the next release, however it does apear that this is reproducible only in specifc releases of Word.  We are still checking this out.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Martin Terreni on August 04, 2009, 11:37:18 pm
still not solved in 847
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Steve Irving on August 07, 2009, 02:28:15 pm
still not solved in 847.  I'm using Word 2003 SP3...will see what happens against later version of Word on weekend - mind u even if that works i can't change the version of word my workplace uses.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: jeshaw2 on August 07, 2009, 02:44:11 pm
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Actualy I shoud qualify the above statement, we do hope to have this resolved  in the next release, however it does apear that this is reproducible only in specifc releases of Word.  We are still checking this out.
So 'resolve' is correct, not 'resolution'? :D
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: FreddoFrog on August 10, 2009, 09:35:31 am
I can add that for us the problem occurs in MS Office 2007 Enterprise addition in the office and the files also play up at home where I am running Office XP.

The only work-around that we have acheived is to revert back to an earlier build of EA on one machine and we generate our documentation on that machine alone.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Paolo F Cantoni on August 10, 2009, 11:29:46 am
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Quote
Actualy I shoud qualify the above statement, we do hope to have this resolved  in the next release, however it does apear that this is reproducible only in specifc releases of Word.  We are still checking this out.
So 'resolve' is correct, not 'resolution'? :D
Nope... you can't have a "resolve for the issue"...  But it was a GOOD try!
But you're forgiven as an American...  (though as a namesake of George Bernard...)

Paolo
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: jeshaw2 on August 10, 2009, 12:07:11 pm
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Quote
Quote
Actualy I shoud qualify the above statement, we do hope to have this resolved  in the next release, however it does apear that this is reproducible only in specifc releases of Word.  We are still checking this out.
So 'resolve' is correct, not 'resolution'? :D
Nope... you can't have a "resolve for the issue"...  But it was a GOOD try!

But you're forgiven as an American...  (though as a namesake of George Bernard...)

Paolo
I was thinking they "have a resolve to fix this issue..." ;D

BTW: George is Irish and a namesake of the Scot's great Clan Shaw who were among Chieftains of Clan Chattan. 8-)
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Paolo F Cantoni on August 10, 2009, 12:18:30 pm
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I was thinking they "have a resolve to fix this issue..." ;D

BTW: George is Irish and a namesake of the Scot's Clan Shaw who were among Chieftains of Clan Chattan. 8-)
I KNOW you were thinking that - I DID say it was a good try!  But that's NOT what was said...

This is exactly what Language Entropy is about...

Paolo
(When did "I could care less" gain currency among the illiterati?)
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: jeshaw2 on August 10, 2009, 12:23:24 pm
I figured you knew.  I just noted that I didn't say it either.  :-[
Jim
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: RoyC on August 10, 2009, 03:04:07 pm
Paulo

Can you just clarify what you mean by "Language Entropy"?  

Entropy 'is the quantitative measure of disorder in a system'. Disorder in a system is increased by the introduction of energy, such as through greater use, stress and challenge.  

I just have a feeling you might actually be thinking of Language Atrophy, where atrophy is a decrease in size and flexibility, and an increase in rigidity (and therefore order) brought about by lack of use, and lack of challenge to the structure.

Which one are you referring to?
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Paolo F Cantoni on August 10, 2009, 04:21:00 pm
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Paulo

Can you just clarify what you mean by "Language Entropy"?  

Entropy 'is the quantitative measure of disorder in a system'. Disorder in a system is increased by the introduction of energy, such as through greater use, stress and challenge.  

I just have a feeling you might actually be thinking of Language Atrophy, where atrophy is a decrease in size and flexibility, and an increase in rigidity (and therefore order) brought about by lack of use, and lack of challenge to the structure.

Which one are you referring to?
Hi Roy,

I DO mean Entropy... I have had it put to me in the past that I meant atrophy (by no less than Linguistic PhDs).  But they were arty types and didn't understand entropy in the scientific sense.

Increasing Entropy is, generally, a bad thing.  Colloquially when we say entropy (unqualified) we imply increasing entropy.  Since it takes a lot of effort (according to the second law of thermodynamics) to reverse the effects of entropy.

So while there may be more energy being input, disorder is increasing.

I'm not against language changing!  Creative use of language (in new and exciting ways) is a joy to behold.  It's the change in language brought about by uncorrected misuse that gets me.  People, in general, don't set about to create novel uses for existing words.  They just (for all sorts of reasons - and present company included) get it wrong!  Nobody bothers to correct them and so they think it was OK.

Until recently, if I got something wrong, only my village got to hear the mistake.  Nowadays, someone on the Net or in popular media gets something wrong and millions of people hear it - and assume it's correct usage.

Dictionaries are no use since they just record usage.  Hence you can get two totally contradictory meanings for the same term (see the definition of our previous Prime Minister's favourite word - resile).  But people still imbue them with the authority they no longer have...  If it's in the dictionary it must be right...  NO!  As an aside, I once accused Sue Butler (of Macquarie Dictionary fame) on live radio of "adding to the entropy of the language".  Funnily enough - they cut me off after that!

When we need to communicate unambiguously - such as in systems building and other difficult human endeavours, we need to ensure we understand each other fully.

I got started on this modelling lark over thirty years ago when I came across the writings of a rather obscure French professor of Informatics called Jean Raymond Abrial - who said:  "The reason we can't build systems that work is we can't describe unambiguously what we want to build."  Thirty years later.... "The reason we can't build...."

Abrial, by the way, taught Bertrand Meyer of Eiffel fame.

So, do what you can to combat language entropy...

Paolo
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Martin Terreni on August 11, 2009, 04:00:27 pm
Very nice all this liguistic tals, but any plans to fix the actual issue?
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: RoyC on August 11, 2009, 04:47:15 pm
Yes; as Dermot says, we are checking through the various instances of Word (or possibly Office) to see what the difference is that makes the difference. The contributions from Freddo Frog and Steve Irving are interesting.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: salayande on August 11, 2009, 08:49:03 pm
I created a simple data dictionary template (attribute full name and notes) in 847 and the notes text are so mangled up. It does not do this in a consistent fashion.

I urgently require a workaround as a fix may be too late (the reputation of EA is being damaged). The document was circulated in error to operational management in the business and they are asking embarrasing questions about the software.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Oliver F. on August 12, 2009, 03:41:31 pm
Returning from a three weeks vacation I was surprised to see the effects of what I seem to have triggered :)

In the meantime I tested the various suggestions as well as the new build and it still occurs.

If there is anything I can try out please let me know.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: RoyC on August 12, 2009, 03:46:37 pm
Segun

Have you put in an urgent supprt request to Sparx Support? Whilst the developers are working on the fix, Support might be able to help you with a workaround.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: salayande on August 12, 2009, 05:19:14 pm
I dont find this saga funny. Where is the professionalism in all this?
The clock is ticking for me and I am hung over my laptop waiting for a solution to save the day which is now turning to days.

Segun
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Oliver F. on August 12, 2009, 05:49:06 pm
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I dont find this saga funny. Where is the professionalism in all this?
The clock is ticking for me and I am hung over my laptop waiting for a solution to save the day which is now turning to days.

Segun, I can totally reproduce the need for a quick solution. I am waiting for a solution for 5 weeks now. On the other hand I have to accept that due to the variants of MS Word deployments with various language and localisation settings there is no easy solution and I was aware about this when I filed the issue. From my experience RTF issues have always been hard to resolve and from my perspective I want a stable and working solution instead of a quick and dirty one which breaks things on the other side of the globe again.
So there are two workarounds for me: Going back to 835 or using a different templating and reporting mechanism. One was introduced in the forums here and is based on XSL stylesheets though I can't remember the name. A quixk search should help.

I expect a solution each day now.

Regards,

Oliver
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: «Midnight» on August 12, 2009, 09:49:52 pm
Please forgive me for asking the obvious but...

Have any of you sent in the complete configuration you are using? By this I mean the version and service pack of MS Word and any other component in the chain and any Windows settings such as region, language, and keyboard layout that can affect how MS Office handles new files. And have you provided a sample project that displays the problem in that configuration (via either email to Sparx Support or the Registered Users bug report form)?

I know these are 'motherhood' steps, but Sparx does seem to be looking into the problem. They seem to be having a configuration issue though.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Martin Terreni on August 12, 2009, 11:17:11 pm
I sent them whtever they required from me. I don't think they asked for all of these, but what they asked for they got.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: «Midnight» on August 13, 2009, 06:03:15 am
Perhaps send them an email. See if they could use additional info. After all, you will end up waiting until they can replicate the problem; their research is part of your critical path.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: FreddoFrog on August 13, 2009, 11:51:59 am
Here is a Fix that is working for our organisation.

USE AT OWN RISK.  

This has been tested on the full set of documentation we create and has not failed yet!!!.  We do not use any Right-to-Left languages so if you do use them this may work for you.

The steps are very simple...

Open RTF file in a text editor.
Replace all instances of "\rtlch" with "\ltrch"
Save file.
Then open the RTF in Word or OpenOffice and the problem is resolved.

Regards

David
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Martin Terreni on August 13, 2009, 09:34:23 pm
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: dgo on August 16, 2009, 01:31:51 am
Thanks to David for his very helpful tip.

If you are using umlauts (ä, ö, ...) in your notes, some further replacements are helpfull, cause umlauts may appear "crippled" too.

As far as I found out until today, in the rtf file the following (wrong) unicode sequences (incl. trailing blanks) must be replaced with "" (string with length 0):

"\u1460 " (Unicode \'c4 / Ä)
"\u1492 " (Unicode \'e4 / ä)
"\u1522 " (Unicode \'d6 / Ö)
"\u1510 " (Unicode \'f6 / ö)
"\u63632 " (Unicode \'dc / Ü)
"\u63637 " (Unicode \'fc / ü)
"\u63635 " (Unicode \'df / ß)

Regards,
Daniel
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: «Midnight» on August 16, 2009, 03:34:10 am
Make sure you are using a recent build of EA. [This is probably not an issue as you'd need to go a long way back.]

Now ensure that you are using the Jet 4.0 engine. Open EA - you do not need to open a model - and on the Tools | Options | General page check the option. You must exit and restart EA for this to take effect. Once you do this EA will use the new setting from that point on.

The default Jet 3.51 driver does not not handle Unicode gracefully.

David

PS: The older driver is also obsolete. I've mentioned this to Sparx, suggesting they set the default to 4.0. They have replied that this is an interesting suggestion, but made no commitment regarding implementation.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: dgo on August 17, 2009, 04:56:20 pm
Thanks for your hint, David.

I've tried the Jet 4.0 option in the most recent version 7.5, Build 847. The umlauts remain crippled in the wrongly generated right-to-left paragraphs, so changing the Jet driver doesn't seem to solve the problem. In EA version 7.1 everything works fine.

Regards
Daniel
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: «Midnight» on August 17, 2009, 09:53:35 pm
Daniel,

Can you send a sample project to Sparx? Ideally this would be a project where the problem occurs with the Jet 4.0 driver in EA 7.5, but not in 7.1.

If you file a bug report via the Registered Users page you can attach a file. [Just zip up the project file and examples of the output.] To reach the appropriate bug report page use one of the following methods. Click the Registered Users link at the top of any forum page; then follow the link to the bug report form that you will find in the first few paragraphs of that page. Or click the Report a Bug link near the bottom of any forum page and follow the link just above the 'public' bug report page to reach the registered version.

The registered bug report is the same as the other report with the exception of the ability to add files and use of a username and password for authorization. [Note that the credentials are the ones issued to you (usually by email) when you received or last updated your EA license.]

David
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: dgo on August 18, 2009, 06:58:00 am
@David:
I've reported the bug to Sparx and sent them the project file + RTF report. Now waiting for response and solution to get rid of the workarounds.

@all:
With (very) small projects everything seems to work fine - until you call the generator three or more times. Which notes will appear crippled then is unforseeable.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: «Midnight» on August 18, 2009, 08:41:12 am
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...
With (very) small projects everything seems to work fine - until you call the generator three or more times. Which notes will appear crippled then is unforseeable.
Now that's interesting!

Did you tell Sparx about the 'time delay' on the problem? Or have you discovered this pattern since you filed the report?
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Sunshine on August 18, 2009, 10:36:28 am
I've just recently upgraded from build 845 to 847 and noticed the same problem where text is transposed in various forms. Its not just limited to the notes field either. I've observed it occuring in the name and alias fields as well. I can generate the RTF document several times without changing the model and observe different results each time.  Words appear to be transposed in several random ways. For instance the text "Priority outcome 2" in the model comes out as "2Priority outcome" in the RTF document.
The workaround provided by FreddoFrog seems to correct the problem. i.e.
Open RTF file in a text editor.
Replace all instances of "\rtlch" with "\ltrch"

Thanks Freddo

Of course the other workaround is to revert back to build 845.

Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Ainsley Haslett on August 18, 2009, 11:29:45 am
I am having the same problem as the original post as well as the problem in response #3. I am using EA Build 847 & MS Word (buld 12.0.6331.5000).

When this problem occurs, in the text in the resutling rtf file which is open in MS Word, if you press the right key the cursor goes left and vice versa. Very strange.

The only workaround I found was to regenerate the rtf package by package as it seemed that the error was more prevalent when the rtf came from a master document than an rtf for an individual package.

Happy to send screenshots or examples if you need.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Sunshine on August 18, 2009, 02:32:51 pm
I logged the RTF problem with Sparx Systems and their reply is

"... We are aware of the issue and we are trying resolve this for build 848."

Hopefully build 848 isn't too far away.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Ainsley Haslett on August 18, 2009, 03:50:27 pm
thanks for that! good luck with the fix lol
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Oliver F. on August 18, 2009, 06:00:01 pm
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thanks for that! good luck with the fix lol

As for the fix it works if one uses it from a binary editor. I tried it from a text editor like jedit and notepad and both crippled the document even further if binary information is included- like bitmaps. So usage of an editor which does not care about character encoding is encouraged.

Oliver
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: nestevao on August 19, 2009, 03:01:00 am
I'm having the same problem.

Using build 847, MS Word 2003 (11.8307.8221) SP3 part of MS Office Professional Edition 2003. English version but everything configured for Portuguese.

I don't know if you noticed but all paragraphs with the bug are formatted as Arabic or Hebrew Language, therefore the writing from right to left and the last character in the beginning of the sentences.

Selecting the text and changing language partially solves the problem, the tricky part is that the problems occurs randomly, hard do identify where, in long documents, the problem is, and with so many inserted text and tags is somehow hard to select the right text without changing other correct and desired formatting. Well, just a clue.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: cvaldi on August 20, 2009, 05:16:21 am
I'm having the same problem too.

I'm using EA 7.5 build 847 and MS Word 10.2627.2625 in spanish.

I reported the bug to Sparx and the answer was:

"We are looking at correcting this in the next release...
In terms of work arounds - if you do have access to the installers for EA builds pre 846 - I would suggest you roll back to this."

The problem is that I only have EA 7.1 build 834, and when i try to generate the RTF document for a model created with build 847, a message box with “Unexpected end of file” appears. Also, when i go to "Edit Template" the application crashes.

I have informed the problem to Sparx but i did not receive any answer.

Does anyone knows where can i find a version pre 846 but that works with a model created with build 847?

Thanks,
Cristóbal.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Geert Bellekens on August 20, 2009, 03:52:11 pm
I still have an installer for the 7.5 844 release.
If you provide me with a location I'm happy to upload that for you.
(it's a bit too big to email)
If you can still wait a few weeks though I'm guessing Sparx will have the 848 released. The 847 was released on 3 th of august and they usually have between 4 to 6 weeks between releases. (in this case they might even try to get the next release out asap as there is this important bug to fix)

Geert
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: cvaldi on August 20, 2009, 11:14:45 pm
Thanks Geert, but Sparx already provide me the installer for build 845.

Also, they said: "we are very close to releasing the 848 build with corrections for this problem".

Cristóbal.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: RoyC on August 21, 2009, 04:02:35 pm
Just in case you have not noticed the Sparx Announcement, we have just released build 848, primarily to sort out this problem with RTF Notes text. Please download the latest installer asap.
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: FreddoFrog on August 21, 2009, 04:59:32 pm
I have downloaded and installed build 848.

I generated the primary set of documents and it appears that the new build has resolved the Right-To-Left problem that we were experiencing.

I will be testing more fully over the next few work days but initial indications are good  (for me at least) ;)

David
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Oliver F. on August 21, 2009, 05:27:04 pm
This looks like a big "Wahoo" has to be issued. Build 848 does not seem to show the incorrect behavior any more. Just generated a bunch of specs with around 50 pages and I did not experience any of the aforementioned problems.
So let's hope it does not return and strike back on us :)

Oliver
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Geert Bellekens on August 21, 2009, 05:38:46 pm
To the Sparxians: Good Work!

This shows again how committed you are to the quality of the product and the user experience.

Geert
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: dgo on August 21, 2009, 06:01:29 pm
Build 848 seems to work correctly. I've tested it by generating some model documentation with arround 100 pages without problems regarding right-to-left pragraphs and umlauts.

Thanks to the Sparx people for fixing the problem.

Daniel
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Ainsley Haslett on October 08, 2009, 10:14:25 am
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Just in case you have not noticed the Sparx Announcement, we have just released build 848, primarily to sort out this problem with RTF Notes text. Please download the latest installer asap.

Just updated to build 849 and the problem appears to be resolved. Thanks Sparx!
Title: Re: Build 846 - notes crippled in RTF export
Post by: Martin Terreni on October 10, 2009, 07:40:19 pm
unfortunately I'm in contact with Sparx because it seems it was not totaly solved...